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This is not the same thing. the donald trump phenomenon is not the same as michele bachmann, herman cain, things that happened four years ago. >> no. tapping into something deeper. the republican party at elite level is pro globalization, pro immigration and pro good relationship with china, good relationship with japan. the republican party at its base, especially among non-college educated voters is anti-globalization. they're anti-immigration in a big way. and they're very, very skeptical of free trade with china. this is the gap that trump has exploited. >> and let's talk about jeb bush an...

Intact, and they crossed the border because they had no other means to work to be able to provide for their family. yes, they broke the law, but it's not a felony. it's kind of the -- it's a -- it's an act of love. >> now, you'll recall that jeb, like his brother, george, has long been a strong proponent of comprehensive immigration reform. it was part of his supposed appeal and the way he could woo the hispanic vote. he publically opposed arizona's papers please laws back in 2010 backed business his protege marco rubio. that was before rubio changed his mind and supported the law. then in 201...