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The people you bump up against that you want to serve american interests because they don't trust their own leader are going to be indoctrinated for 40 or 50 years he's not only the political leader but the answer for everything in north korea. that's a tough recruitment target, what we call intelligence a hard target. difficult to get a picture of what they think, wolf. >> the u.s. intelligence community believes kim jong-un is rational, maybe unpredictable but rational. he wants to survive and the regime to survive. >> we should dispense with that notion that you have a crazy man there becau...

Jong-un is rational, and that the alaska based system and missiles in california and a forward deployed missile defense with the thaad, these need to be integrated, upgraded, we need more of them. we need a space sensor that can integrate all of our missile defenses with our allies. that's what my bill would do, and i think the vast majority of americans, what you live in alaska or chicago, would agree with that. so whatever the strategy is, it has to include a much more robust missile defense. >> senator sullivan, thank you for calling in tonight. >> thank you, erin. next, country music leg...