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Republican of florida and member of the foreign affairs committee. congressman, welcome to you, sir. how do you respond to your colleague, senator marco rubio there? do you think the president needs to make a more aggressive effort to get assad out of power? >> well, i don't think anybody's saying that assad shouldn't go, that assad's not a heinous authoritarian ruler. in fact, i think finally we have a president willing to take some tangible actions, measured actions, but tangible actions, to show that we are going to protect american interests in the middle east. so we have this isis problem...

Way reality works in the international order, solutions are a little more complex than that. for instance, just saying bombing oil fields in iraq will stop the isis problem. we have, actually, the united states and the coalition have been bombing in iraq and syria. isis's strategic points and that's part of the problem. as they're losing organizational control in syria, they're moving out into europe. so we've actually increased the problem and the problem to direct western targets. so this is part of the nuance, understanding that it is necessary. it seems like the president-elect is far more...

Jeopardy. >> everybody getting offended about everything. people are looking for ulterior motives in everything you say. this is ridiculous. >> so now you're telling me the solution -- to all of this is just to address political correctness? >> that's part of it to start, yes. >> eric? >> take care of the immigration problem you take care of the isis problem. there is a reason that for 60 years we did not allow immigration in this country. it was called aassimilation. th don't have to lose their cultures but when they come here they need to learn to speak english, learn our culture, learn our ...

When you talk about a syrian cease-fire, how can that occur when so many sunnis are angry and disengaged from what they feel is any political process in the future? >> well, the sunni disenfranchisement is a big part of it. there are several ways to look at the isis problem. one is that it's about sunni anger which is what you are just talking about, that since the iraq war, you have had sunnis who felt humiliated, who felt pushed out of power where they were ruling iraq for 1400 years and that this is sunni revenge and isis is the most aggressive form of it. that's one way of looking at it. t...

It seems this won't be the end of it. i've heard this the same from u.s. defense officials that france wants to step up its participation as a whole. the broader question though, we haven't seen this yet and early indications are this is not changing. is that this will remain largely an air campaign. these are not attacks that launch a significant strategic change in the operation -- >> for example, ground troops and nato getting together -- >> in the article 5 of nato as happened after 9/11, which is in effect the whole nato alliance comes together in self-defense after one of their members h...