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The headlines. how does it cut politically? >> well, this is one of these complicated issues that cuts lots of different ways in lots of different places. the lawsuit this week that the government filed, president obama's administration filed against the arizona law tossed out or at least temporarily stopped some of the most important elements of that law. it enflames the conservatives obviously who were upset about immigration but it also, you know, has the effect of the hispanic base, giving them a reason to turn out for the democratic party. so i think it's one of these things where it depe...

Joining me now here in washington, peter baker, white house correspondent for "the new york times" and dan balz, national political reporter for the "washington post." thank you all for being here. let me start out with an immigration issue because it's been a couple of weeks now in the headlines. how does it cut politically? >> well, this is one of these complicated issues that cuts in lots of different ways and lots of different places, right? the lawsuit this week that the government filed, president obama's administration filed against the arizona law tossed out or at least temporarily sto...

Own base. they are precipitating a massive realignment of latino voters nationwide. we will talk about the politics of immigration with peter baker of the "new york times" and dan balz when we come back.

And it will -- the more conservatives on the republican side, tea party and others, it will push them to the polls. >> peter is right, although i think that the question this fall is likely to be that it's going to give more energy to the right than to the left, than to the hispanic base. i think that in the short term this is helpful to republicans and conservatives in getting people, even more people out in the fall. over the long term, obviously, republicans have a greater risk at losing the latino vote for, you know, for the foreseeable future. >> let me turn you to ethics, simply because ...

Things. i'm willing to push my party, but at the end of the day the democratic party has to be willing to push their base. and to the american people, immigration is broken and will never be fixed until we change our laws. our laws are broken. if you want to fix immigration, allow republicans and democrats to get in a room and do some good old-fashioned horse trading to get this thing fixed. if we keep yelling at each other, if we keep just saying no to each other's idea, we're going to have one thing in common. we're going nowhere together. >> senator lindsey graham, thank you so much for joi...