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Jo ling kent. the new tax bill eliminates the penalty that people face if they don't have health insurance. those impacted most will be the middle class who buy their insurance on the individual marketplace. for more this to i'm joined by the former health and human services secretary, kathleen sebelius. she was instrumental in implementing the affordable care act, also known as obamacare. the former governor of kansas. i think people want to know, is this some sort of a death nell for obamacare to repeal the individual mandate? because we knew that was a necessary part of obamacare to get i...

Still remain privileged. >> oh, that's interesting. they're locked in a box. >> they're locked in the box. but it doesn't mean that flynn can't testify to the facts of what happened. >> right. because you can't lock away the facts. >> you can't lock away the facts. but you can lock away the strategy and what people said during the course of that joint defense agreement. >> so seeing the news that michael schmidt reported in "the new york times" and others now appeared to confirm, do you have the same inference that between that and the meeting today between mueller's attorneys and flynn's atto...

In it right now. i mean, we don't lock to our doors out here. but why -- >> there aren't even words, are there? >> no. there's no words. there's just -- this happens in new york, in big cities. no one's safe. my dad's already taught me how to get the gun out of the safe and get 'em loaded. i mean, if it can happen here, guys, it can happen anywhere. eric: the people of south sutherland, texas, talking about the horrific horror they underwent today on the phone is the attorney general of the state of texas, ken paxton. mr. attorney general, the thoughts and prayers of all americans are with you...

Hour. a suspect, we are told, is dead. we do not have a motivation. we publicly do not have the create of -- the identity of that suspect, but here are what some of the people within the last hour told reporters when they spoke. let's listen. >> we got called in the middle of our service down there, down the road and immediately the people that were, my wife who is a nurse at the hospital, local hospital, went into action. we have a deputy that was in there that went into action along with other people. and then we just did what we do, we prayed. and, you know, the bible tells us that we overc...

According to reports, a 2-year-old among the wounded. arthel: a place of worship should be a safe haven, but it has happened again in a tiny town of about 400 people. southerland spring -- sutherland springs, texas, just southeast of san antonio. this church, the first baptist church, was founded in 1926, making it a bedrock there in that community where you just heard one of the parishioners, one of the people in that community saying it should not happen here, we don't lock our doors, we know our neighbors, my keys are in my car right now as i sat inside of this church when this lone gunman ...