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A new poll shows that 70% of americans want president trump to testify under oath to special prosecutor robert mueller. chuck rosenberg is back with us. and chuck, the september 1st rule, rudy giuliani just invented somewhere, i guess. >> yeah. lawrence, in a shocking development, mr. giuliani does not know what he's talking about. there is a memo from then attorney general eric holder in 2012 which tells all department prosecutors that they may not interfere in an election. but leading up to an election you can still take covert, or quiet investigative steps. you just can't take overt investi...

>> yeah. lawrence, in a shocking development, mr. giuliani does not know what he's talking about. there is a memo from then attorney general eric holder in 2012 which tells all department prosecutors that they may not interfere in an election. but leading up to an election you can still take covert, or quiet investigative steps. you just can't take overt investigative steps. and by the way, if the mueller team feels that they need to suspend something between september 1st or october 1st, some date and the election, all they have to do is hit pause, and the day after the election they can hit ...

Programming note for you. spoke with cohen just before the story broke and i'm going talk with him noon eastern time. meantime. "washington post" calls for the president to be censored by congress. hit pause on the impeachment talks. let's bring in the author. my good friend. columnist for the daily beast and political analyst. republican strategist with a big welcome to you both. get into it here. your argument for censoring the president and response you're getting for the idea. >> there's been a good response actually. impeachment is just not going to happen at this point. not just because ...

Water. that's the equivalent of 11 football fields. we don't know if if it's in one place or further out there, but that's a long way to take anyone underwater. bear in mind in some places we're still talking about openings that are described as no bigger than a single human being. and yet for all of that, we started the weekend with everybody inside there and all these stretches in between ask now we have most of the people outside. we use heroic all the time. sometimes i don't think we should. in this case, it absolutely applies. >> amen to that. the visuals have been amazing and helping us ...

To exist for nothing but russian oligarchs. now, with regard to novartis, we could have -- it's a foreign-based company. it's a u.s.-based portion that allegedly provided money for access or enlightenment on the new administration. mueller cares about that because it's a further charge against cohen that could be paying for quid pro quo, promising official action from the president. it could also be a foreign corrupt practices act charge. it could show that pattern of activity that i take money from all comers and promise things for the president or take care of things for the president. money...