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Argument that the state could make. and i guess woel se'll see in a minute what the state tries to claim regarding his testimony. you mentioned john donnelly, he and his wife, as you indicated, gave a substantial amount of money to the zimmerman legal defense fund, bought him clothes for the trial, took food to the home as well. judge nelson indicated she has yet to deal with or address the matter of hit testimony as well, john donnelly, apparently. again, there is a picture that we pulled from the donnelly in court before he testified. and as you know, judge nelson decided early on in the tri...

Run the house intelligence committee, the senate intelligence committee. you don't trust the judges on the fisa court. >> bill: okay. were you in a coma last week for the irs testimony? were new a coma last week for the irs it testimony? you have federal officials -- >> -- you know, that has nothing to do with this. nothing. >> bill: of course it does. you had federal officials working for the irs being paid by the federal government who are illegally mining information about conservative and conservative groups and giving it to their opponents. that's a crime. you are telling me i should trus...

Committee, the senate intelligence committee. you don't trust the judges on the fisa court. >> bill: okay. were you in a coma last week for the irs testimony? were new a coma last week for the irs it testimony? you have federal officials -- >> -- you know, that has nothing to do with this. nothing. >> bill: of course it does. you had federal officials working for the irs being paid by the federal government who are illegally mining information about conservative and conservative groups and giving it to their opponents. that's a crime. you are telling me i should trust the federal government. w...

Committee, the senate intelligence committee. you don't trust the judges on the fisa court. >> bill: okay. were you in a coma last week for the irs testimony? were new a coma last week for the irs it testimony? you have federal officials -- >> -- you know, that has nothing to do with this. nothing. >> bill: of course it does. you had federal officials working for the irs being paid by the federal government who are illegally mining information about conservative and conservative groups and giving it to their opponents. that's a crime. you are telling me i should trust the federal government. w...

Revolved promptly. what was happening in the front office there was no secret here. i was getting calls in '11 and '12 from people saying what is going on at the irs with the c 4s. i declined to answer that because i didn't know much about it. obviously it was of great interest to many people with congressional letters going in. the front office should have learned about it. shed ulmans it testimony should have been different and the record corrected as soon as he knew that his testimony was incorrect. >> greta: i think he did know. i'm looking at the testimony and he says i think there has be...