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Americans support using ground troops against isis. 30% are opposed. are you comfortable with being in the minority there? >> yes, because we want to make sure that we don't do more damage. in other words, when you put the ground troops on then that helps isil recruit individuals, to say this is americans coming against, trying to occupy their lands, it is important to have those in the region to have the ground troops with us giving them support through the air and intelligence so that they're all coming together and it is not america against muslims. >> why do you think the numbers are so st...

A great deal of joint special operations training. air commanders are located at eglin air force base marines, special operations use the uh-60 helicopter. as a matter of fact, we have plenty of them thousands in all of the services. and they were undoubtedly doing practices where they insert in darkness or poor visibility to infiltrate an area to conduct raids and other kinds of exercises against the enemy. practice it all the time. >> they might be practicing this type of exercise in foggy conditions deliberately? >> well not necessarily deliberately, although we always practice stuff in low...