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What you ought to do is stop and look at the facts. >> wendy, how are the historians at brown university taking this historian defense? are they offended that he is trying to blame their profession? >> well, there's a difference between an inaccurate historian and someone who makes things up and revises history over and over again. and you've got to argue that gingrich is really engaging in a lot of revisionist history. >> he's like a history creator and re-writer. >> he's a smart guy. he knows what he's doing. he knows when he says something that's not true and he's shading the facts. but one...

Were quite weak, even from gingrich. very, as ron paul, 1960s in the approach. so i thought gingrich kind of -- but hitting historians, if you're romney hitting historians, if you're gingrich hitting romney, what gingrich should have said, not everyone's as rich as you, mitt, and i had to make a living. and that's the truth. he made a living. >> howard, let's go to that -- >> lawrence? >> howard, go ahead. >> i was just going to say, thinking over it now, as i review the debate in my mind, when newt gingrich isn't on the attack, he isn't very good. and i think having won in south carolina, he ...