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You think he s worth up to $200 billion us. i said that back in 2017. i think it s much bigger than that now. the world s richest man? by far. even elon musk, by the way, admits that he s no longer the world s richest man, that vladimir putin is. right. well, we re never going to be able to prove that with pieces of paper. but nonetheless, even if we accept your contention that that s the truth and that if you get your way with the expansion of the targeted sanctions, putin s wealth will, in effect, be frozen and taken from him. what difference would that make? i spoke very recently to a man you know well, mikhail khodorkovsky, former head of yukos energy company in russia. now a long term anti putin campaigner, just like yourself. and he says that, in the end, hitting the oligarchs doesn t make much difference. they are, to quote him, putin s footmen. they will not influence him. so even if you freeze that money, freeze putin s money, too, the war machine can rumble on. well, first ....