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Estimate that he had the largest inauguration crowd in history. that's fantasy. >> you don't think he's going to try to put the military on the line force to choose to obeying the law and presidential orders? >> he very well may try to do it, but i'm completely confident that the courts will check him in that regard because again, he lax both the constitutional and legal authority to do it. >> yet, senator lindsey graham is urging the president, hold fast to this. here's what he's saying, the president may actually be open to extending the temporary protection status for immigrants feeling civ...

Department's leadership, civilian and military, remains in the best possible hands. i'm confident each of you remains undistracted from our sworn mission to support and defend the constitution. our department is proven to be at its best we times are most difficult. hold fast along side our allies aligned against our foes. i mean, it is a message to the troops, right, a message to the department. but i also read that as kind of a message to the rest of the united states of america. saying don't worry, we're going to still have your back. >> that's quintessential jim mattis. he is as state as an...

Down, maybe wages flatten, and some of these companies maybe go belly up or farmers start to panic, the white house is going to have to re-evaluate. as you get closer to november, especially in some of these red/blue states, they'll have to recalibrate. >> this first round of tariffs, this is mostly industrial goods. it's ball bearings, all these industrial products. it doesn't really hit the pocketbooks of people in a direct way. if this escalates further, which it shows all the signs of escalating, then it'll start to hit consumer goods and more of the goods you buy at the store. you'll see ...

Administration might actually make. why wouldn't zero tolerance by itself be sufficient deterrent? that's a conversation that can be had. the trump administration isn't interested in having a conversation. they are reaping what they've sown. everything is a zero-sum game. everything is the war of all against all. and so i do think this moment partly because of visual imagery, partly because the president was forced to at least partially reverse himself. i think this will be something that at least extinction in the mind longer than most of the trump era, which is unfortunately there is so much...

Unfortunately there is so much of it, it's almost impossible psychologically to hold onto it. but we are called upon to hold onto it and hold fast to it because we don't want to be the era that intern the japanese. you want to be on the right side of history, and history is forever. these news cycles and breitbart and fox moments, even midterm elections, they come and go. but history is going to judge all of us as lincoln once said, down to the last generation, for where we stood in this era where we had a president who really turned an us versus them rhetoric into reality. >> and i think that...