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Black applicants who come to their apartment building that the rent is twice as high as they told white applicants or for somebody who tells black applicants who come to rent an apartment that it's filled, there's no vacancy bus they don't tell a white person that an hour later, how is that not racist? >> look, i don't know the details of these cases. >> thus the complicity, thus the silence. >> hold on michael, hold on. >> you're giving him all the time. >> because i want to -- >> you're giving oxygen to a die who is trying to legitimate and validate racism. >> i want to hear how explains it,...

Not me. they also wrote, "new york times" wrote that the rnc had been hacked. that's false. >> how do you know it's false? >> because i work with intelligence agency! hold on michael. michael, hold on. >> go ahead. >> we were willing to offer "the new york times" inside access to know what happened. we were willing to offer them proof. they chose not to engage in that conversation. not us. i sat there with senior folks from "the new york times" last night and said, i will bring you inside, we will give you access to certain things, so that you can see that we are telling the truth, that we are...

Broke on medicare and everything else and so this is a recipe for disaster. >> brenda: okay, hold on michael. >> geraldo: want to get gary b in. you did mention that taxes around the world and in fact, history shows us though, gary b, that they haven't been all that successful. >> well, exactly. i'm glad-- you know i was waiting, i wanted to see how mike would spin the value added tax was a good thing and did he a remarkable job. unfortunately he pointed to europe. hey, they have it in europe, i guess implying that hey, if they have it in europe, it's done okay there. the average tax burden in...