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To ginni thomas, he funneled through a nonprofit organization that actually ended up having matters before the court. they filed an amicus brief in the section five shelby county, the holder case, that actually struck down the heart of the voting rights act, where justice thomas was in the 54 majority in that case, striking down the heart of the voting rights act. so, at the very least, there is the appearance of impropriety. there's possibly a full out conflict of interest, and possibly a straight ride. there seems to be no bottom to the ethical conflicts this court has, and that justice thom...

>> well, this case is, i think, a turning point, alex, and the fact that the alabama legislature, which has only 14 days to draw these new maps, the fact that they've not yet scheduled a special session suggests that they're very confident that they will win in the supreme court. they have asked the court to take the case, but pending right now on the supreme court's shadow docket is a motion that would keep the district court's ruling from going into effect. in essence, that would mean alabama would keep the same maps it already has that draws only one of its seven congressional districts in ...

Waiver just as they're careful to recognize a blanket assertion. and the trump administration is treating executive privilege like the new black. they are just asserting it every possible opportunity. >> and basically challenging -- this to be challenged in court, right which democrats will likely do if they get satisfaction here. how long does that process play out? >> it could play out for a long time. the courts may expedite it a little bit. there are instances where it can drag out for quite some time like in the holder case, some of it wasn't resolved for years. other times it can move a ...

Congressional prerogative. they're weakening that branch of government by not fighting the executive branch on this. >> the holder case showed that. the holder case showed that. i mean that was straight out of the obama administration. >> they actually invoked executive privilege on that, though. >> right. >> i think we expected she was going to not answer many questions. i think we all knew that was going to happen. the only reason she was forthcoming on much of it today is because she had testified to the senate on this. here's where i have a problem with this. a, the little white lie is goi...