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Honor a subpoena. let me play for you what marco rubio said. >> what was the damage? was this stolen and sold to the iranians? sold to the saudis? given over to the russians? that allegation's not made in that indictment. no one's made that allegation. so at the end of the day, we have to weigh the damage of the indictment versus the damage of the allegations if proven true. it's just not even a fair way. >> so this is an issue of fairness, michael? >> what the hell is he talking about? what are you kidding me? you're sitting there, you're holding documents you shouldn't have that are marked s...

Documents and for releasing them all. and for anybody else, any other government employee thought to be holding documents and have them squirrelled away, they have the evidence that they compiled with donald trump, their move would be to indict that person, but that is not happening here, and perhaps, you know, even though legal experts say this appears on the surface to be a strong case, as with donald trump, and other matters, and the mueller case, and as the trump organization, he seems to have layers between him and some of the people that are doing the business, and often, that actions as...

Administration to block trump lawyers from holding documents? >> i think it's an important step. we need the truth and the country needs the truth, and history will not look kindly upon us if we allow people to paper over what took place on january 6th, and you and i have talked about this. i was trapped in the gallery and it was traumatic. i am grateful for the reporting you have done. i have had many people inside and outside of congress say they sought treatment about their trauma, as well as me speaking to you about my experience. we have been traumatized because a violent mob attacked the...

To mueller. you can dove tail on obstruction. you may lose votes. are you worried if you reach back to mueller you may lose votes? >> i don't know how listing more crimes loses votes. under nixon articles of impeachment it lists four instances in which he obstructed. this president obstructed four times in one day. by with holding documents. >> keep it to ukraine. don't go beyond that or will you lose it? >> i haven't heard people tell me that personally. it's easy to add into an article that includes obstruction. the one that a special counsel mueller referenced. he rarely talked to the press...

If it was, it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. >> that wasn't the question. >> that was my answer. i didn't answer it the way you wanted me to. >> you're spinning. it is a spin. you're not answering the question. >> go ahead, rick. >> several things obtained here. you have to give rob props for the engages in the version of performative the defenses of donald trump. this is a we didn't do anything wrong. if we did, it wasn't wrong. we did something it's not wrong. we did something wrong so what. that's the argument. we haven't seen more evidence is because the white house is engaged i...