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Chris, 14 months is an eternity in politics, anything could happen and we ve seen it happen on both sides, where somebody has been down in the dumps and has been able to win re-election like bill khreupb, and george wh bush lost reelection. anything could happen. this economy i don t see it getting better, you have a huge overhang of destructive policies. you could have an unforeseen event that could hel end up helping the president. megyn: maybe we ll learn something in the september speech and the republicans will think it s a great plan and both parties will implement the plan and we ll turn the numbers around. don t hold your breath. greg: your lips to god s ears, megyn. megyn: thank you both. there is a new round of bad economic news breaking today for millions of americans. we ll show you what a new report is showing about our jobs crisis. and take a very close look at this picture, this room described as a homemade torture ....