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Country safe. >> the fbi agents association, as i mentioned, they also distributed this document, which is full of sort of granular information from individual agents around the country about how exactly their work in law enforcement and national security is getting screwed up by the shutdown. this, for example, is from an agent working both overt and undercover counterintelligence matters against a top threat to national security. that's how the agent is described. these are the agents words, "the shutdown has eliminated any ability to operate. it is bad enough to work without pay, but we can...

Know, european 35-hour workweek, we should look at the chinese. the economies there that are starting to kick our butt, those people work hard. there aren't labor laws, there aren't minimum wages. they're working harder than we are. >> so is that the answer, mr. secretary, get rid of the 40-hour workweek, get rid of wage laws altogether? emulate the chinese? >> i don't even know where to start with responding to that. you know, i don't think we want to become like communist china. i think we want to reward work. we have always been a country that has done that. we need to raise the minimum wag...

Usda.gov and sign up to help us. >> yeah. and you've made the point before, but these are children whose parents are working, in some cases low-wage jobs, in some cases many, many hours a week. many more than 40. >> get us back to the minimum wage and honoring work and making sure that folks get enough help and assistance to honor work. and the reality is with food stamps, that's also a great anti-poverty program. we know that 4.7 million people are moved out of poverty because of that food stamp program. raising the minimum wage, getting folks to work, that's the right prescription and not ar...

Is it your expectation, having covered this justice department, that there will be more activism, more aggressive activism and more aggressive pushback to really test the limits of how far the attorney general could go in terms of relaxing some of the, i guess, moronerous parts of the deportation regime? >> to a certain extent, but right now i think one of his priorities is really is working with congress, as difficult as that might be, especially on some of the things in terms of, you know, the smart on crime initiative. he really does want to work with congress, and he has had some meetings ...