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>> i'm going to say about our elected leaders in washington who we vote for and put confidence and faith in to run our government. it's because of their actions that we are not able to work. it's holding the federal employees hostage and the american public host alk because we serve the american public. >> gary, let me tell people how you serve here. you help to oversee the underground storage tanks and that's pretty important because you have half a million of them. they need to be inspected and kept from any sort of hazardous substances. once those things, if they get compromised, that attac...

It's acceptable for a shutdown to occur? >> the president doesn't want to shut down. if one happens, i think you only have one place to look and that's to the democrats, who are holding our military and our national security host alk by trying to push through other policies that have nothing to do with the budget. we would like to, again, get a budget deal done. a clean budget deal and then focus on negotiations following that deal with finding a ferm innocent solution. we have said that many times before. our position has not changed. >> they control. >> republicans don't have 60 votes. democ...