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This mass killing now, she's going to expose it because she says tomorrow we're going to go and talk to somebody and he says, oh, no, we're not and i have worked on cases like that before. a fantasy of mass killing is hidden, it is protected, and it is protected to the point where the mass killer will do anything, even kill his own mother in order to keep from being discovered. now is that what happened here? >> michael -- >> i think we can get to the bottom of this with further scrutiny. >> michael warner, i got to leave it there. fascinating talking to you. many, many hot button points and a...

Happened. it happened that day to a person who forbade her access and we don't know if she stumbled across something that had been his secret buried and number toured for awhile and he recognized if i don't embark on this mass killing now, she's going to expose it because she says tomorrow we're going to go and talk to somebody and he says, oh, no, we're not and i have worked on cases like that before. a fantasy of mass killing is hidden, it is protected, and it is protected to the point where the mass killer will do anything, even kill his own mother in order to keep from being discovered. no...