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Bill. so on some level meetings like this are about being a cheerleader for the process. and i -- i find it just hard to believe that anything coming out of this meeting will be substantive moving this negotiation forward. on the other hand, it will give him a better sense of where the moderates are on this legislation because they're the ones who hold the key to this entire process. and i think that it's as much about kind of bringing him into the process as it is about sort of having them at the table and having him be a sort of convene or of all the various factions on this bill. >> not onl...

Name you need to sign on to this bill because this is what we promised them to do. every state, every senator has their own concerns. mitch mcconnell is someone who understands that. i actually am not -- i have a certain amount of confidence in mitch mcconnell's ability to sort of twist arms and get things done. i just don't think that the president really understands how that process works and that's why he's kind of on the sideline. >> one of the challenges will be anything they can put together in the senate, can they look people in the eye and say it's obamacare repeal. that's their mantra...

Twitter feed. i guess it's not a first. >> but it becomes very significant because they're viewing those as official presidential statements. >> that's right. which they obviously are. they obviously are official presidential statements. although it's good to get the white house to confirm. that they're just angling to get him quoted more. >> he's his own worst enemy on this issue. as much as he's pushing it, he is the one who's setting it back by doing just that. it's not like he's not aware that it's hurting this process and it's hurting their argument. his lawyers have told him and he's rej...