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>> first time his name ever appeared in "the new york times" donald trump was in a case of racial discrimination in the housing practices of the trump company. >> that's right. >> professor and mark thompson, thank you both for joining us. the latest threat from north korea. i'll have the langoustine lobster ravioli. for you, sir? the original call was for langoustine ravioli. a langoustine is a tiny kind of lobster. a slight shellfish allergy rules that out, plus my wife ordered the langoustine. i will have chicken tenders and tater tots. if you're a ref, you way over-explain things. it's w...

Last week baltimore is america. what did you mean by that? >> when we look across the nation and look at the gaps the inequities in income and look at the gaps and inequities in access to services things like health care, fair treatment in terms of left wing praklend -- of lending practices and housing practices, we can see racialized and class inflicted gaps -- inflected fwaps eded gaps. we can see inequities in charleston, ferguson, cities that have this confluence of both mass incarceration and aggressive policing in these underdeveloped economic regions which has created a powder keg that ...

Northern insurance companies that insured it. so the reality is our system -- economic system was based upon that. now, moving fast forward. so, yes, you have the overt signs in the south but then you had the housing practices in the north. so my point here is that you have -- >> you also had overt signs in the north because let's not forget one of the unspoken things joe, about the voting rights act is two of the counties that had to have preclearance was in new york. you know one of the reasons that a lot of us -- >> also ugliest pictures i've ever seen in my life on racism in america came i...

What would that award have been for? thank god they're not giving it to him, but he had to quite literally you know what the bed to make that happen. >> that was clearly awkward timing on this award ceremony. i'm not sure why they would give it to him considering his history with racist remarks and housing practices. you know, comes down to the fact that he's wealthy and he has a lot of money. people who are wealthy and have a lot of money get showered with awards like this. there is sort of a precedent on how to handle this. mark scott, owner of the cincinnati reds, was fined and suspended he...

Housing practices. it's an important position. >> how might he be able to take his personal experience, though, to the table on this? you know, initially thought a good fit for health and human services. he's a doctor, obviously. what makes him a good fit for this in terms of the personal experience he brings to the table? >> i don't know, really. interesting to hear from him how he thinks anything in his packbound prepares him to run an agency like that. it is an important agency in a lot of inner cities. dealing with a lot of sticky issues around race and housing, and as one of the most high...