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Defending the rights of people to be unvaccinated and i was watching individuals that i know are vaccinated, which i think speaks to the point that you just made. >> yeah, you know, look, one of the things that i've always respected about your work and admired you for is that you paint things as complicated. you don't just cut right to the end and say, oh, it's all this or it's all that. there is nuance. it is hard, and as journalists when we talk about serious things we need to take them seriously. doesn't mean we have to take ourselves seriously, but we have to take these issues seriously an...

Wanted to instigate violence or whatever, i don't buy that. i wouldn't say that. i wouldn't say that about somebody that i didn't know. but what they were clearly trying to do is to say, you know, that perhaps pence had power to do things that he of course did not have in an effort to try to keep the election from going to biden. it's sad. it's ridiculous, erin. it's just ridiculous. and it's almost christmas week and we've got to deal with this. it's just nuts. >> governor, thank you so much. i appreciate your time. >> okay, erin. thank you. next, president biden just acknowledging a key pa...

Communities everywhere in the country, creating good-paying union jobs as we do it. but that huge opportunity is there in the build back better bill. let's jump and get it. >> yeah. >> and right now what we have is a congress that seems so dysfunctional. we've got an entire party that's sitting on the sidelines as this really important opportunity -- let's remember, climate change is affecting red states and blue states. >> yes. >> it is not a partisan issue. >> no. it's coming for everyone, and you're right. basically 50 u.s. senators have just basically said we're doing nothing about this. i...

And that's your reality check. >> i agree with you. that pendulum has swung, and this will be a big issue in the mid-term elections unless things change in the way you've just described. >> big time. >> we'll see. we'll be right back to your reaction to tonight's program. ♪ "how bizarre" by omc ♪ no annual fee on any discover card. ♪ ♪ >> man: what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

Something i regard a secret. i have taken an oath to the constitution of the united states many times over my lifetime. the first time was when i was 18 years old and entered into the naval academy. most recently, i did it last january as i started a new session of congress. and what is really incredibly heartbreaking to me is that every single member of congress were talking about, when we're talking about people like mark meadows, when we're talking about the president of the united states, every single one of them took that same old. >> congresswoman mikie sherrill, thank you very much for ...