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About what they experienced after robert kennedy's assassination june of 1968 following so closely after martin luther king jr., april of 1968. lbj, a texan, calls his top aides in the oval office and says we need to act in ten days on long delayed gun legislation he had been pushing. in fact, they got beaten back because he said, you know, if we don't act quickly, the nra will organize and they did and they were beaten back and a very modest piece of legislation was signed that october. >> that's right. this was an issue that johnson knew. he was a big hunter on the ranch in texas and elsewhe...

And sometimes it's not always the home. usually it's always the school, and that's been taken away from us, so we have to re-evaluate. as you said, i'm a life member of the nra and a proud member, and i want to bring all of my friends of the nra in on this discussion. they need to be part of this dialogue of how we move forward. we can protect the second amendment rights. we can protect it, and we will protect it, but we can look at also ways that we can make our country and our children more safe. i really believe that we can sit down and have that dialogue and hopefully have movement on that...

Staff and everybody is posturing and you start the deals with they're very far apart and i say they draw these lines in a sand for a reason so they the cover them up later and move them. then you get the later conversations where it just will be the speaker and the president perhaps. you always hear the stories of how lbj will drive down to the capital and have a drink with senator when he was president. i think that personal relationship absolutely matters. i think that's where the real deal gets made and i think that's where the speaker is going to be to sell that if he can to his caucus, th...