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remove the president illegally, we will step in and stop. it the top oath keeper gets 18 years for seditious conspiracy. the guy with his feet on the speaker s death gets four years. but the guy who sent them to the capital is still scot-free. then, the special counsel is closing in as we get new reporting on team trump moving classified documents. plus, the disastrous rollout of the desantis campaign. rob desanctimonious and his men members are dropping like a rock. is he a fool that has no idea what he s doing? and a showdown in texas as house republicans call from attorney general to be impeached after he says the house speaker was drunk on the job. the objection to the [inaudible] when all in starts, right now. good evening from new york. i m chris hayes. it was a traumatic scene inside a washington court house today as a federal judge handed down the longest sentence yet for the january six insurrectionists. elmer stewart rhodes the third, founder of ....
years for seditious conspiracy. the guy with his feet on the speaker s desk gets four years. but the guy who sent them to the capitol is still scot-free. then, the special counsel is closing in we get new reporting on team trump moving classified documents. plus, the disastrous rollout of the desantis campaign. rob desanctimonious and his members are dropping like a rock. is he a fool that has no idea what he s doing? and a showdown in texas as house republicans call for the attorney general to be impeached after he says the house speaker was drunk on the job. the objection to the [inaudible] when all in starts, right now. good evening from new york. i m chris hayes. it was a traumatic scene inside a washington court house today as a federal judge handed down the longest sentence yet for the january six insurrectionists. elmer stewart rhodes the third, founder of the far-right group the oath keepers, was convicted of the rare crime of seditious conspiracy la ....
both groups have a starring role in tomorrow s january 6th hearings as federal prosecutors reveal more on trump s inner orbit. after oath keepers stormed the capitol their leader called someone on the phone with an urgent message for trump. this is based on what another extremist told investigators. new accusations also include an alleged oath keeper bring explosives to d.v. on january 67th along with allegations this a co-defendant kept a deck list with the name of a georgia election official. tomorrow we ll hear from a former oath keeper spokesperson who will appear as a witness. he s expected to speak about the group s propaganda efforts and radicalization over the years, including how rhodes capitalized on conspiracy theories to raise money. joining us now are our guests and thanks for all being here. mr. john wirth, i want to start with you. you wereo an investigator on t committee. give us a senseig of what you expect them to do with the information they brin ....
Of the lawyers, a consternation about how rhodes was going to say they really have a man able to restrain him. in fact they had three lawyers there. one of them was a guy who was added at the last-minute rhodes s request. he tried to push other people on the team out. so there s been an ongoing tension within his legal team about what the best defense strategy was here, because this is a guy who thinks he s very smart. he wants to do his own defense here. but i don t think it was looking for any mitigation necessarily in that hearing. he was willing to take the hit on whatever marginal impact the words of the last minute to the judge might end up having, whether that shaves off a few months or a couple of years perhaps off of his sentence. but he just wanted to put that political message out there. he wanted to put that message out there to the american people, putting himself in that same begin with all these ....
Will be going to prison for his crimes for a long time. again, his conviction raises the question that we have asked many times on this show over the past several years, when are we going to see accountability for the man behind the big lie, the attempted coup, the january six insurrection? the individual but for whom there would be none of this? when is donald trump himself going to face legal consequences for his actions? nbc news justice reporter ryan reilly is at the court for the sentencing, and he joins me now. ryan, give incidents of what it was like. it seemed that the word of the judge was impassioned, that rhodes was incredibly defiant. give us a sense of how it played out. yeah, it was a remarkable moment because the lawyers, one of the lawyers, a consternation about how rhodes was going to say they really have a man able to restrain him. in fact they had three lawyers ....