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Through huma, arizona and that's what they are doing. they are just funneling through. a barrier definitely helps. i think it's been proven wherever we have a barrier the numbers of coming into the country have diminished significantly. steve: you heard him walls work. that's exactly what the president of the united states has been saying. that's why he is in gridlock with the speaker of the house nancy pelosi. two days ago nancy pelosi did a stunning political move. mr. president, because there is a shutdown, perhaps you should postpone the state of the union. yesterday fast forward in a stun...

It also shows that apparently some coyotes, some smugglers i think helped five or six adult members of this group get over the wall and then they just drop the kids. ainsley: one of the kids got hurt. brian: what happened to those kids, 20 days held or be released or. steve: we don't know. they were taken into custody. ainsley: they suspect the guy at the top dropping the children is -- is he a smuggler. he didn't come over. looks like adults were down on the ground trying to catch the children. one of them had a facial injury because of the fall. it's 18 feet? steve: i know it. brian: border ...

Is ridiculous considering it's an international space that we have to protect. >> harris: katie, can you talk about that border crossing though? because you and i have been down there. it's very porous, guys. >> yeah. >> harris: there is place for a wall or wall apparatus or wall system there. particularly in nogales. it's hard to watch that happening with people who live close down there and want to feel protected and not have this -- the extra forces, if you will, for the border patrol. >> katie: the interesting thing about the timing of george w. bush extend sending the national guard in 20...