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Jelani just talked about the case initially where they didn't raise charges so there were protests. the fact is we now see an acquittal not only on second degree murder but any lesser charges put forth in judges instructions. they had a full acquittal. therefore the case was never there to charge him. that's the legal aspect of this. but what we're being drawn into is that now that there is unstats fax over the verdict by a jury, by both the prosecutors who had to put forth their case and by the defense that did put forth their case successfully, that we now have dissatisfaction and we go back...

Asking the justice department to come in, there's no guarantee of anything to take place. they have this law in florida also that in order to maintain certain civil actions, you have got to have been proven to not been wrong yourself. and it's going to be very, very difficult in many instances. and yet that's what the justice department is there for. one of the things that chanielle was speaking to relative to virginia, even though -- i don't disagree with her, even though there may have been attempts by some people in the house to get this legislation through, it never has gotten through, i w...

Need this, it should be this. who are they to decide? not those two. but who is government to decide what we need? >> yeah, because -- >> like the almighty hand has decided, you should eat more vegetables, you should exercise more. was there a human cry for this obama care? no. in fact, it's widely hated. that's why not only should the employer mandate go, the rest of it should go and we should try to edge back toward a free market system. why is there a walmart of health care out there? >> jonas? >> they have these giant plans because the government carved out all these breaks. first of all, ...

Congress, leave it to a lower court. do you see that calculation? >> absolutely. i see it's one of the most activist court we've seen in some time. there's a human cry any time a court does something that seems to favor the liberal side of the ledger as that's a bad thing. this is a very conservative and activist court. i think the opinions we've seen this week, and you go back to citizens united, you look at the obama care decision, which came out favorably, but as i believe had a poison pill in there about the impact of the commerce clause. we have a court very politically astute. and they a...

Political issues. but what you have to keep in mind is for extradition, there's an overriding question of whether a charged crime was a political apt. most if not all extradition cla requests come with the claim that someone committed a charge and they can consider whether it's plit kl and doesn't help to have the senators and members of congress calling for this guy's head and saying they want to catch the traitor and face the possible death penalty. all this human cry adds to this sort of political perspective of the case that is not going to help the united states, state department or justi...