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Where people are ending up, and just greater information, and the families, unfortunately, there harrowing journey is not over, just when they leave ukraine. >> james, nato leaders are meeting in what is now a matter of hours, we've talked about the military option that will have on the table. we've talked about arms, we talk about sanctions, what is the conversation you want those leaders to be having about the refugee crisis that is unfolding? >> i think the key part is clearly two things. the one has to stop. i know that can sound glib, given where we are. but if that is, for whatever reaso...

Meeting in what is now a matter of hours, we've talked about the military option that will have on the table. we've talked about arms, we talk about sanctions, what is the conversation you want those leaders to be having about the refugee crisis that is unfolding? >> i think the key part is clearly two things. the one has to stop. i know that can sound glib, given where we are. but if that is, for whatever reason, not possible, then at the very least, these indiscriminate attacks on hospitals, on schools, and dozens of hospitals, and potentially hundreds of schools, all places that should be s...