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Works but not enough knowledge to know how to stop everything and keep the electricity on. because you need the electrical system working so the airplane can fly. you can't turn it off like you can smaller old airplanes that were piston-driven where you could actually turn off the electrical. you can't do that in these modern jets. >> fran, what do you make of this? the mind obviously immediately turns to terrorism as a possibility. just based on if these devices are being shut off, with time apart and shut off according to both these gentlemen, it would be a human being doing that. >> that's ...

Great. >> professor, do you agree with what mary just said, or do you focus more on human intervention in this? >> well again, we have to keep all hypotheses open. it's hard to find a credible hypothesis where you have the sequence of events that we have here. if there was a problem on the airplane where you had let's say a cockpit fire or something like that, or depressurization, it could explain losing the transponder. it doesn't really make sense to head off in the direction the airplane headed off on. so they would have either done 180-degree turn and gone back to kuala lumpur or perhaps d...

Mask if you were the pilots, and that the plane then goes on because this 777 is such a marvelous plane. the 777 will shut down systems if it's losing power, it will shut down systems and try to keep itself flying. it will keep its control surfaces and keep its engines. that's what makes the plane so great. >> professor, do you agree with what mary just said, or do you focus more on human intervention in this? >> well again, we have to keep all hypotheses open. it's hard to find a credible hypothesis where you have the sequence of events that we have here. if there was a problem on the airplan...

Nothing. so i know that's a horrible answer and been a horrible answer for six days. they do need the black boxes. they need to try to hear what went on in the cockpit at the time, whatever happened, happened. they don't know if it's mechanical, human intervention by the pilots or someone that got into that cockpit and took over the aircraft. we don't know that now. we may not know that. who knows if we're going to know that for sure. certainly it's a possibility, something that all the investigators from the very beginning look at. now i know this whole thing looks like a massive ball of conf...

This clock need to be maintained to keep on ticking. it does not just tell time infinitely without human intervention. it need to be wound on a regular basis. the ohio clock which stands in the united states capitol, just outside the entrance to the chamber of the u.s. senate. it is the backdrop of senate press conferences. about a week ago the ohio clock stopped at 12:14 a.m., p.m., i don't know. 14 minutes past some 12:00 the ohio clock stopped ticking. the reason it stopped is that the government shutdown forced furloughs for the people who wind it. the curators in charge of winding the thi...