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The polling on a lot of these issues is most people are for universal health care. most people are for more gun restriks. most people are for a lot of ideas that are pretty progressive, but are actually mainstream ideas when you kind of divorce them from the partisan politics. but once you imbue the -- >> once you put the hat on -- >> puns you put it on it's like you're on this team and i'm on that team. and it's hard to have a conversation once you're on separate teams like that. but if you start talking about issues and issues of justice and fairness and equality and really just human issues...

Stay and you get the tragedies that happen like the horrible situation where the tree fell on the home and more people there, more human issues as opposed to where you are. >> you have higher concentrations of people, very small minority of residents who decided to stay, one of the main concerns, you evacuated and have to wait days before you can get back on the island, worry about your property so those few hardy souls decided to stay on the island did so because they didn't want to deal with finding out whether their home was standing. or require repairs. connell: they are stuck and waiting.

Disgusted to work at a company that has anything to do with fox news. seth mcfarland saying he's embarrassed by this. what do you think is the role of artists who have such a following in this debate? >> i think it's important that we block the, you know, the pivot of the conversation. and instead of making it politics, to not forget, these are human issues. and a lot of people are very cynical about artists, musicians, athletes, and everyone getting involved in the national conversation. but let's not forget that we're also human beings and that we are people that have a story that not only r...

All kinds of people. and yet, we're in a country where we're seeing a debate over who really american and whether people who are trying to get here should be mistreated, as a, quote, deterrent, as a tool of u.s. government policy. walk us through how you view this. >> well, i think there's a misconception. what you were talking about earlier is relevant to this topic because there's a pivot that happens on a daily basis when you're telling a story and broadcasting news. and what happens is, they're blurring the lines of what the word immigration really means. they're making it sound like there...

Corey says he was mocking the democratic activist who was playing politics with children. >> it doesn't matter. i mean, look, the story itself does illustrate how complicated this issue is. i think there are a fair number of democrats who would like to believe this is kind of one decision in the wrong direction as soon as you reverse it, everything is going to be fine. it is extremely complicated. >> absolutely. >> it's going to take a long time to try to unwind and get the right policy which, by the way, we haven't had in 20 years. we haven't had the right policy. as to lewandowski, look, i t...