Did make noises about this tunnel into the basement of macy's, tunnel going nowhere. but he also said at the time, i see the merits of this tunnel, i see that commuters need this, but we just can't afford it at this time. and this defined his role as this fiscal conservative, a hero in the republican party. >> "new york times" reporter, kate zernike, thank you very much for your reporting on this and helping us to flush it out. >> thanks, rachel. coming up, best new thing in the world. bear teaches human lessons. yes. stay with us. they have names like idle time books and smash records