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Typically work in government contracting. so i think we need to do more to bring some of those people over. >> was there a point where you all realized you turned it around? because it was an open question. you come in and you think this thing might just not work. it might actually need to be scrapped, right? that was a real possibility at some point? >> actually, i don't think we really thought that was an option. we saw a technology problem, and technology problems as my friend mikey dickerson would say can be fixed. the real challenge was the human problem. could we get this disparate group...

I worked with al sharpton on national action network from diallo to graham. race is live. as president obama said eloquently on friday, no human problem is 100% solvable. the voting rights act, civil rights act granted were great pieces of legislation but discrimination still exists. >> i feel glad you brought up the president. we spend a lot of time on how his discursive moment of saying trayvon could have been me, i could have been trayvon. that's right. this is ann dunham's child. on the one hand identifying fully and completely with trayvon martin. that's his mama. his mother is a white wo...

This is the thing about slavery. slavery is not a christian problem, it's not a faith-based problem. slavery a human problem and we know as humans, that slavery can't happen. no one thinks it's right. no one is for slavery. so today we're shining a right on the fact that slavery still exists and there's an entire nation that wants it to go away. >> bryson, in the last 15 seconds for people that want to get involved what can they do? >> today we're all putting a red x on our hand. hundreds of thousands of people all over the united states are doing this. and you can go to end itmovement.com and...

Relationship with bob dole, the senate majority leader and i can recall, although we battled fiercely over gun control particularly over the brady bill, we came together as individuals and as political leaders in all of these issues, and i think that's one of the big differences now. >> all right. i got to ask you about steroids. big story down in my home noun miami of yet another sort of black market steroids operation that was helping a lot of major league baseball players get access to steroids. you did this, big report a few years ago. where is -- what is this -- is baseball -- baseball's ...

Secretary kerry is on and needs to be on in order to figure out how do we not be part of the problem anymore. >> that's absolutely right. it's libya we did intervene and syria we are intervening in the sense of we're sending money and helping other people send weapons so it's not like we're sitting by. but in terms of what happened at libya, that has been the lesson learned to the extent we can. my sense is that your feelings about the libyan intervention are different than these and i want to get your sense of what the effects are after we take a quick break. zzzquil sleep-aid. [ snoring ] [ ...