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Essence of reform, i keep coming -- of progressivism, i keep coming back to this, is reform. it's all about reforming. to what? to perfection. the idea whether they're children, whether they're corporations, whether they're city governments, you can if you just keep reforming them long enough, you will finally get to perfection. it's a view that denies human sin. i hate to go there. but that is the point, denies human sin. >> glenn: it's the collective salvation. if you look at it, it really is the whole misunderstanding of humans can be perfect, if you just have administrator administrate all...

Admitting that they knew it was wrong at the time. and they chose to do the wrong thing. and they don't care and now they just want to redo it, so that they can continue to attack mub answer. >> tucker: right. nbc news refused to air allegations of rape against bill clinton because i guess we didn't know it was wrong then? >> i guess so. >> tucker: people say both sides do it. i think to some extent that's true, human sin is a human problem. but it seems disproportionately on the side of those who claim to be allies would have men, who tell you about their feminism, they're the ones doing thes...

They are admitting that they knew what was wrong at the time and they chose to do the wrong thing, and they don't care, and now they just simply want to redo it so that they can continue to attack republicans, frankly. >> tucker: that's right. nbc news workers to air allegations of rape against bill clinton because i guess we didn't know what was wrong then. what is striking, people say both sides to it, and i think to some extent that's true. human sin is a human problem, but it does seem disproportionately clustered on the side that claims to be allies of women. there is a kind of weird hypo...

Ended up committing more crimes or creating more victims, but becoming members of their community. >> tucker: i don't believe that. i wrote a book on this one. those numbers are so -- that would be the most effective rehabilitation program in the history of the world. if that's really true, then it should be replicated everywhere. >> the numbers under sb 260 and 261, and happy to share with you the data that both conservatives and progressives have -- >> tucker: if that's true, you just solve the age-old question of human sin. i hope you did. [laughs] mayor sloan, thanks for joining us, i appr...