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Your team at nbc news have that jack dorsey doesn't that you are able to get this? >> so you want to know the real truth? >> no. tell me nonsense. >> the technology is a human brain. we are not averse to human solutions to figure it out and our own eyeballs. >> what is twitter's -- >> they want automated solutions to everything. that's part of the larger problem with facebook and twitter. they want a robot to do most of the work and i don't blame them for it but you have to put human eyes on it. >> yeah. i would say accuracy and excellence come ahead of just getting it out there and having bot...

Debate we are having now that when we say it's good to help africa you to prove it ben gits americans. >> i wanl t to ask you about another reason i wonder why there is cause for pessimism, which is climate change. a lot of issues, there are human solutions to it. with something like climate change it is so deeply structural and the response seems pretty limited at this point when you consider all of the new things, doesn't it make you a little pessimistic? >> remember, my optimism is not that we can just sit back and

Eventually benefits americans. >> again, your optimism. i want to come back to that and ask you about another kind of -- another reason why i wonder this is some cause for pessimism, which is climate change. a lot of the other issues that people worry about, and your answer would be, these are problems, but there are human solutions to it and ways in which human beings are already solving these problems. isn't it so deeply structural, and the response seems lippetmi when you consider india and china and your government into the atmosphere? doesn't that make you pessimistic? >> my optimism is n...