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Go to the extent to grab this guy and try to make him do something he wouldn't otherwise do the facts are clear there has been some reports out there that he did initially approach the fbi. for him to make this argument is going to be a huge hurt toll get over. >> this is national security. this is tough to defend in court. they apparently did the right thing here. >> from the human standpoint they did the right thing. fortunately that sometimes negatively impacts the ability to prosecutor the case successfully. but i'll take that over a loss of life. >> randy, steve, gentlemen, thank you both...

The best he can do is the next day, he tells the coach -- i saw this. where is -- where is there any courage at this entire system at penn state isn't faculty, the athletic department, the coaches? i just don't understand how you can let this go on and on and on! >> right. i mean, from a human standpoint, it's beyond belief. mark what kind of person commits child sex abuse? give us a quick profile here? >> well, you have somebody that is -- first, they're a pedophile. they are not interested in the opposite sex or even the same sex their age. they are looking for vulnerable kids. this has been...

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Much and honor their status. >> and just from a human standpoint, are you sympathetic at all to their situation? >> certainly, many of us belong to churches, there is a component to caring. there is a component to care about the american citizens. paul, you look at the camera, they broke the law. they are law breakers, their status. >> they did not. >> there is plenty -- what is that act? >> what is that act of crossing the -- >> you can filibuster in a moment. it's not your show. and listen, in this country there are people that get in line legally to be immigrants. and then there are people ...

Time, what's the reasonable likelihood we would get another serious quake or something as big as a 7 any time in the near future? >> for the specific area that was -- where this one began, the central virginia seismic zone we don't have any indication that this is likely followed another event. we'll have lots of smaller after-events. we could have a larger event but it's a reminder that on the east coast we have a history, especially looking back in the 19th century and 18th century of mortgaging earthquakes, larger, more damaging earthquakes. we had a significant tsunami generated from an ea...