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Roof of the anex who were killed by a simple mortar attack. >> seven hours after this started, the problem is that the north africa command that had been started appropriately because of al qaeda's growing influence there in north africa, buzz not located in italy or any place close to north africa. they couldn't get there in time. there was a drone that took pictures but it was unarmed. >> let's bring this to human terms. people like to find somebody responsible. there isn't always somebody responsible. sometimes things break. is it true they were tough in their report, the pickering and mull...

How much it represents in a microcosm all of american history and the strange, long trip with race and the way it's an excuse for absolutely everything. but it certainly was a test of the justice system and it failed. >> and to that point, i mean, what's the bigger takeaway you want people to take from the film that you took from this film? >> jim dwyer and says i wish had been more skeptical. he was the most skeptical at the time and puts it in big and very tiny and human terms. he says we all make mistakes and whether you own them or not and what we have found now is 13 years of justice deni...

Really struck me about this, i know it's said there are no national security concerns raised by the scandal, but, in fact, this thing has detonated like a gigantic ied down in the ranks where the key ethic that holds this military together is that you do the right thing when no one is watching, and, boy, i talked to some drill sergeants this afternoon who were saying like how are we supposed to teach young recruits to do the right thing when no one is looking when these guys at the top weren't doing that. it's a real tragedy. >> yeah, and i think -- tell me about the culture of the military. i...

That you do the right thing when no one is watching, and, boy, i talked to some drill sergeants this afternoon who were saying like how are we supposed to teach young recruits to do the right thing when no one is looking when these guys at the top weren't doing that. it's a real tragedy. >> yeah, and i think -- tell me about the culture of the military. i mean, i'm watching it from outside, and i'm thinking, generals and their wives spend a lot of time together socializing. they have drinks, parties that go on for hours i assume because of the pressure of the military life and the danger of it...

Holds this military together is that you do the right thing when no one is watching, and, boy, i talked to some drill sergeants this afternoon who were saying like how are we supposed to teach young recruits to do the right thing when no one is looking when these guys at the top weren't doing that. it's a real tragedy. >> yeah, and i think -- tell me about the culture of the military. i mean, i'm watching it from outside, and i'm thinking, generals and their wives spend a lot of times together socializing. they have drinks, parties that go on for hours i assume because the pressure of the mili...