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a penalty, not a tax. >> the law is clear. it's called a penalty. >> the massive so-called tax increase they're talking about is the freeloader penalty. >> people who can buy health insurance should take responsibility to do so. >> i'm saying tks was set up as a penalty for people who chose not to buy insurance. >> it's a penalty. >> whatever you call it a mandate or a tax, it's a penalty. >> in case you missed it, it's a penalty and not a tax. that's what's being said, right? as for the republican side, any time is tax time. >> it's a tax increase. it's a massive tax increase on the...

It would seem to be a setback but your analysis said you thought it was rather weakly worded in terms of the support for it. >> yes, that's right. it's certainly in human terms, he's right. in human terms, this is going to be something that will affect hundreds of thousands of people, potentially, in arizona. but what the court said was in effect not yet, the fight goes on. the court said they weren't ready to rule on it but that there could be a state constitutional challenge and they wanted to see how it was put into effect. people who have racial profiling, people who have unfair stops will...

Resolve it and figuring out a way to pay for it is really always the essence of the battle here when it come to things in times when we know the budget is tight. >> what there democrats in the house saying prior to the vote? >> they have been very frustrated. they have that that what republicans tried to do was take money that would be for preventive care.ç they have really said this would hurt women and families who would not have access to some of the preventive type care that was a part of the president's health care law. they say that is a choice that is too painful to have a mother choo...

Basically about $20 billion of that $25 billion is going to be principal reduction. actual write-downs on thetle t value of the principal of the loan and principal reductions had -- lot of people had been calling for principal reductions from the beginning of the crisis as the key way of helping the deleveraging process of getting recovery in both -- human terms and getting people to be able to stay in their homes but also macro economically. so that part of it seems good. the question is, is it sufficient and you seem skeptical of the settlement. i want to hear your feelings about it. >> ther...

He's standing in front of a construction site. a high-tech manufacturing site. earlier today he was in iowa at another manufacturing site. he's going to go on tomorrow and the next day to talk about energy and education and job training. so i think what the president wants to do is take that message he gave to america last night. if we pull together, have a system that treats people fairly, if we make the right investments we can rebuild this economy and don't have to go back to the economy he was left with the day he became president. >> now one of the things he has said is that we should -- ...