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"one nation" doing very well. you heard the "the washington post" guy saying you overstated the border fence controversy in human yuma, what say you? >> well documented the fence is only one component of our defense against you will legal immigration they did it correctly in yuma. not only did they put up a double fence with a road that allows quick access, but they also had border guards there and they prosecuted first time offenders rather than the catch and release program that has subsequently been. >> right, that was a big thing and word got out. so, when you make a installment in a debat...

Resulted in the decline there so putting all of the decline on the fence is overstating it. >> is overstating it. >> we found that as well that there were a whole bunch of things behind fence there were a policy of detention it whereas illegal immigrants knew that yuma was not a place to go so they went some place else. would that be fair? >> yes, exactly. >> that's all we want, mr. kessler, thank you very much for coming on. it was a very interesting segment. next on the rundown, dr. ben carson will be be here. he out in the middle of the pack last night. he i have some questions on him on te...

I think that's what trump was getting at there. i just want to be fair here. i'm not disputing the facts of the matter. i'm disputing the fact that governor bush said trump did it personally and i don't think trump did it personally i think his guys did it, when i heard that exchange i didn't hear that trump was personally asking. >> that's what bush was contending and there is no doubt about that. final one, ben carson, border fence in yuma, arizona, go. what begheed to do is look at something that actually works, yuma county, arizona, they stopped 7% of the illegal immigration through there....

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