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Where you can live on a full time minimum wage job. you cannot rent a sufficient two bedroom apartment. can you even imagine a time when we can get past a politics that is only about politics on something like food? is there any possibility of a kind of like core ethical sort of american sense of our need to take care of one another in tough times? >> i'm an encourageable optimist, so i say yes. but it takes a lot of work. we've talked about this before about just the kind of callousness we've encountered in the way that we have very little by way of sympathy for our common citizen. the idea t...

Former secretary of state condoleezza rice, the 2008 nominee, senator john mccain. vp short lister, bobby jindal and karl rove just to name a few. my kind of party. karl rove, condi rice. but now, about 750 miles southwest of park city is san diego, california. and it's the sight of another convention organized by charlotte and david koch. the billionaires who bankroll conservative causes and keep democrats up at night with nightmares of attack ads funded by bottomless pockets. if you press your face up against that window, you'd see, well not very much. you'd see, let's just say that the wind...

Crop insurance. so if our producers experience weak yields or low prices, the federal government will make sure they get through until the next growing season. insurance companies can also depend on a steady flow of cash. a government sponsored insurance policy for our biggest insurance companies. that is a kind of welfare to work that we don't often talk about. with me, peter edleman, kathleen jamison, alicia mendez and giuliani cobb. peter, at 2:00 in the morning, i could not sleep, really couldn't sleep as i was reading your book. i think what i found so fascinating about this was the histo...

A country rather than an indication of look what a great job we're doing making sure people don't fall below some kind of basic, humane basis. how did that framing shift? >> well, first, when you take the language of s.n.a.p. and use that, you're using an acronym that gives nothing to anybody about the problem being addressed. first, they ought to be accused of linguistic malfeasance. under that program of people who are in need and hungry and cared for -- ultimately led to this initiative and if you look back at one of the most important ads produced in 1964, you have a major advertising agen...

Called the regulation reality tour. they were upsponsoring a bus to in pivotal states where they wanted to pressure senators to pass legislation to restrict the epa to regulate carbon emissions. but the group went out and they dressed as epa police and would go out to people as kind of street theatre and said if the epa is allowed to move forward, the epa will send these to your church and won't even allow you to breathe. they used a lot of misinformation and never said who they were being funded by, a big conglomerate. >> is it misinformation? not that we can't press our nose up against the w...