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Guy out there in the sun with the sun in his face walking around -- >> sleeves rolled up. >> looking like a cowboy, he wins. mondale, indoor. dole, indoor. dukakis, indoor. these other guys -- talk about it, joe. what we're talking about here, explains why here he is in the sun, shirt sleeves. he's always been fit, looking like a million bucks looking like a guy. >> exactly. he is somebody to relate to. he becomes real, somebody on the ground who cares, at least that's the inference to get across with the trips, especially to areas that have been hard hit by troubles and again i think it was m...

Looking like a million bucks looking like a guy. >> exactly. he is somebody to relate to. he becomes real, somebody on the ground who cares, at least that's the inference to get across with the trips, especially to areas that have been hard hit by troubles and again i think it was mentioned earlier in the program, the first part of disaster recovery if you're in the white house is showing up. showing that you care. and being out there and delivering the common touch, talking with ordinary people, humanizes you. takes you away from the stodgy sort of washington insider-y mode that you would get...

He becomes real, somebody on the ground that cares and the inference to get across with the trips, especially to areas that have been hard hit by troubles and again i think it was mentioned earlier in the program, the first part of disaster recovery if you're in the white house is showing up. showing that you care. and being out there and delivering the common touch, talking with ordinary people, humanizes you. stakes you from the washington inside mode that you would get stuck in inside d.c. and shows that you do care about the country no matter what your policies might be. >> what was the fi...