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Were skeptical and now many people running the department of health and hume ab an services are the architects of the strategy. you had people that would run groups where they would pass the laws in the states and bring the lawsuit and now they are running things and they need to deliver some wins to those folks who turned out for president trump. >> you say this is red meat for his political base. >> absolutely. there are crucial ways in which the expands could -- so now you could have a moral and not just religious refusal but i think it is a signal to say we are doing something for you righ...

Master mind to kill 3000 americans and hit the pentagon and would have taken out the white house or the capitol building if, in fact, it wasn't for the passengers of the united 93. he is in our possession, we know he is the architect and what are we supposed to do? kiss him on both cheeks and say, please, please, tell us what you know. of course not. we did exactly what we needed to be done to catch those that are guilty on 9/11 and prevent a further attack and we were successful on both parts. >> in a moment i'm speak with john yu who wrote the tactics. but one top official is demanding chene...