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So, you know -- >> but barr has seen no evidence of that. >> no evidence. again, this goes to his credibility which i think has been at issue for the last many months. >> that's a great point. in fact, that is what we should talk about because many people don't know that they can trust whatever bill barr says because once you read the mueller report how different his summary was. also, john, it's interesting that he says that he saw no evidence of obstruction in the instances that robert mueller laid out because many legal analysts including, we should say, those on fox tv said that that would...

Ran into the rocks of reality. the founding fathers may have intended impeachment to be the proper way of holding a president to account -- at least in mueller's fairly narrow reading of his constraints, but that ignores the reality that the founders didn't anticipate which is that the congress would be so polarized they would have effectively no ability to reason together. that's where we are. the remedy mueller is pointing to and saying congress, the founding fathers said it is up to you, that doesn't exist right now because of the rot of hyperpartisanship. >> the robert mueller thinks he's ...

To actually say what they think about what's happening in washington. he went on to say that cowardice, hyper partisanship is not only making us stupid. it's hurting democracy and crippling our ability to reason together as a country. those are important comments for people to listen to today. >> i want to bring up another subject. seth moulton from massachusetts, running for president. he's not number one in the polls. he's at the bottom of the pack. >> 1%. >> he did something historic yesterday which is acknowledge that he's been getting therapy for post traumatic stress. he served in the ir...

Out saying this publicly? >> the fact that justin amash is being consistent with libertarian principles and that makes him a target speaks to how the party has drifted away from principles and toward hyper partisanship. the notes are extraordinary not only because he's the first republican to do it. he's pointing out two important things. one, hyper partisanship distorted the way the founders intended the system to work. he's saying most of his colleagues in congress haven't bothered to read the report. that's a huge condemnation of the way hyper partisanship makes us lazy and stupid. >> mitt ...

Younger people. my guess is there will be a spark in their generations that will be much healthier than what we have now. they're not as hyper partisan. they don't drive this hyper partisanship that we're living in. >> your dad began in politics in the '60s. he was known for his civilit, bipartisan. the way he cherished democratic institutions and so on. he had an extraordinary one term. the end of the berlin wall falling. the dissolution of the soviet union. >> reunification of germany. >> and then the gulf war. in the midst of it he had to make a decision about taxes and about agreeing to a ...