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The current leadership that's going to be inheriting all this to try to cut it down, that they think is a realistic way to try to curb some of the hyper partisanship? >> i think in the end of the documentary, obama reflects upon the last eight years and says, look, i might be progressive in my policy, but i'm conservative as an institutionalist, and these institutions have weathered a lot of storms, and people can get frustrated with the slowness of the political process. and that frustration can lead to maybe trying to have systemic change. he was very worried about this, that, you know, revo...

Nominee is. that's just what the battlefield looks like. it's a very polarized and partisan country right now. it's going to be a close election. having said that, if i was still at the dnc, i would be happy with either of those guys. still have to run a tough campaign against whoever is the nominee. we spent two years trying to make ted cruz the face of the republican party. and it seems like a growing number of republicans now are trying to help us out in that front i think they both are the type of candidates that democrats can run effectively against as being part of the problem in washing...

Can really represent them and bring the kind of change to washington that we need. instead of the same, you know, hyper partisanship and inability to move the country forward that we now see out of congress. >> that is elan carr, the republican nominee. top vote getter in california's 33rd district. thank you, mr. carr. let's turn now to your likely democratic opponent in the fall, state senator ted lieu joins me on the phone. state senator, let's first just talk about the logistical challenges of campaigning in a race in which there are so many candidates. how can did you go about doing this ...

When the politics and pr will be removed from it? and should it be separated? the problem here is that the pr and the politics -- it seeped into the policy. it's getting in the way of the implementation of the plans. >> no question about it. i mean, that's been the whole story here. and one of the real stories of our time, the gap, the huge gap between narrative and reality, when it comes to politics. but people at the end of the day will experience this for themselves. part of the high bar republicans have set, this is supposed to be the end of freedom as we know it. and if people realize tha...

Filibuster has become so abused that whatever party is in the majority should fear the precedent that's been set. the question is, again whether there's a sensible senator in the senate that can come to a sensible compromise. filibuster these obama nominees and increasing number of appointees was always going to lead to this kind of moment this kind of showdown in the senate corridors because it's just a symptom of the hyperpartisanship that stopped government from working. >> hold for a minute if you will, john. i want to bring our viewers up to speed. reid proposes filibuster nuclear option,...