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Flag on the field, some of the very same people who are saying it's a technical violation, and these are the same people saying john roberts should have been locked up on a similar case. they went after john edwards -- >> i can do one better on the hypocrisy flag. we have orrin hatch this week, who said, who cares? he said, i don't care about things like this, and i remember this did care when there was philandering from the president in the past. >> i think that's correct. the one thing we do have to -- we sometimes lose perspective on this, and the largest perspective is a case has been buil...

Reviewed the documents. >> i think it's important what michael cohen just said there. when does this become a criminal violation? you have to knowingly and willingly commit it. >> it really has to be done for the election. this is what they are litigating. this is one of the major issues, which is was it for the campaign versus so your wife and kids don't know. again, one of the most important things is that the president directed it, and he was involved in it and it was done for the political campaign and that's part of the ami nonprosecution agreement. if we stay, and that's also what cohen ...