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You have a new perspective? >> i think i was held captive in 2008 and 2009 by the taliban. the several months i was in captivity, they hated the saudis. they talked about them as corrupt and liars. they said the united states were hypocrit hypocrites. we talk about justice and rule of law, but when it comes to saudis and money and oil, they get a pass. i think this stance if we let this pass, it will help recruitment by extremist groups. they will say the united states doesn't care about arab lives. they say one thing and do another when it comes to the saudi royal family. >> is the saudi rela...

Hypocrit hypocrites. >> but hollywood, they have a hard time shining a light on the wrong things that they do. >> you've heard a lot of actresses say i don't want to comment because i'm so angry and i don't want to be misquoted. at the end of the day there's no side to be on there. there's no wrong way to say anything. >> exactly. you could even take a bad thing and turn it into something positive. when sexual harassment cases started being covered from insurance companies, what you saw was a lot of policies against sexual harassment, which was fantastic. unfortunately the problem is now it's ...

Should say change these rules. >> but he didn't. i watched every time he talked about it and he never once suggested taxes unrealized capitol gains. he never once suggested limiting the amounts of reductions on gifts to your family 501 c 3. he never once mentioned any of that stuff. for obvious reasons that's what would have gotten him. it's like howard mexonbomb of ohio six months before he died he mover to do florida so he wouldn't have to pay the ohio estate tax. john kerry buying a yacht and harboring it in rhode island. their behavior is not bad. it's their words it's their policies, it's...

Oh, yes, it is absolutely time. look at that sweet famous he's actually a mean person. evil. >> my soul is black. you're right. let's talk about allen simpson. the co-chair of president obama's debt commission. chris asked senator simpson for his impressions of the 2012 republican field. here's what he said. >> we have home phoophobes. we're all gods people. moral values while you're diddling your secretary? come on. get off of it. >> he called the republican field a bunch of homophobes and hypocrit hypocrites. chris matthews daughter worked