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For 27 years and this is the lowest i've ever seen it. it's mainly due to the mayor's lack of public support for our officers. >> tell us about the eric logan case.part of the national press. >> more than ten officers have been shot at since that shooting. >> to what do you attribute that? >>ha we attribute that to the racism remarks that mayor pete has been spewing and demoralizing our police department and the public. the public is unafraid to approach us. >> do you feel safe in south bend? >> not at all. >> i i can't wait to get out.i's every night. >> i feel like i'm on gaillardia. >> i'm ...

That c does not seem a straightforward, honest, honorable way to conduct an investigation. if you believe a man is guilty, and i him, if not, don't charge them. i don't understand what is going on. >> i don't d either. i can promise you when i was a prosecutor, if i had the evidence to indict someone, i was going to indict them. if i told them as going to indict them, i would have indicted them. it makes no sense to me. you are right that it does make it look fraudulent. this whole investigation has been a sort of damocles over the president at even over our nation. there is a significant numb...

Michael buffer's let's get ready to rumble. all of a sudden, something happens and it's insane. it took on a life of its own and norman didn't want to do it in the first place. john rich who was our director said we're going to do this and we did it. and when i did it, i went -- they really pushed it and i said john, do you think anybody is going to go for somebody just saying dynamite for no reason? he said they'll go for it. you know, john, people are not that stupid and he said, yes, they are. >> do you still do the dynamite? >> i don't d -- "dy-no-mite!" is in the smithsonian institute and...

American people? and he's like, well, it could be the russians but i don't know, and i don't know -- he was likeb saying, "i don't know, i don't d know, i don't know." it was the most rank speculation from a former cia chief! it's just wrong. it is wrong. >> i think he knows a lot more than -- >> laura: no. no. he doesn't. listen to what nicole wallace try to get him to say. he was like, "it could be but i don't know anything but mueller is looking into that." he had a big nothing. i'm telling you. it was hilarious. i was watching it with a producer, i was like, what thete heck did he just say...