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Know what they are, but these people aren't running around every chance they get when their kids get hurt working on a farm. my parents grew up on a farm. one of the things taught there is you have to work your butt off in this world. not enough kids are taught that. >> when it is dark out that is like really weird for people like me. you have to get up at like 4:00 a.m. and there is stuff out there that smells. bill, you were raised by a family of goats. how was growing up on a farm? >> i am preventing myself from saying bad in an elongated fashion like a goat. i am not going to do that. i am...

People who really belong there are forced to listen to barbara streisand. whether they are listening to a song on the mp3, it has to be low on the list of things to worry about. >> the state of the prison and the role is to reform you. >> their penance is as a way of admonishment. you, jill, unlike everybody has done hard time. they don't de soift mp3's but it does curb violence. should we over look the fact that it is a pleasure? >> we are like, yes, give themth i-pod. it might help with reform, and these guys are pumping iron in the gym at the prison all the time. can you imagine working out...

>> heather: world is still reeling days after the death of steve jobs. jobs responsible for ground breakers like the i-pod, ipad, also the computer mouse and some of the earliest commuters ever. back with our panel. i begin with you this time. with the passing of steve jobs not as expected but it's still a passing that will be noticed and felt? >> it is. he is the father of technology. he is like the thomas edison of our time. and he hold to his life and for the passing. for the new ceo to take over, he dies the next day. it's something. he is a very strong man. >> a lesson you can learn from ...

Savers. >> they are reining back their spending, a majority spend less than $20 a week. it's important to remember they do have a lot of things. they have a i-pod a computer, a tv, a cellphone, they do have the basics already, but they are spending less and saving a lot more. >> gregg: on average, teens have nearly thousand dollars in savings. 76% say they are saving for college? >> that is amazing. they are hoping to make some dent. obviously what they can contribute compared to the tuition. >> $50,000 a year essentially. >> and the second reason they are saving is for emergencies that is one...

>> i don't know. get away from me. by the way, this is the best show ever. >> don't tell, don't tell. >> i am not going to say anything. >> greg a lot ept -- greg-alogue comment, are you saying that because they attended the same church that means the obamas are aware of all of it? >> i am saying that is a very strange connection. what i am saying is these guys are research. laura bush had to turn things away because they found out bad things in their past. you have to think they didn't know these lyrics. they knew he wanted to set bush on fire and they were okay with it. >> all right. the mor...