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Closely with nato already but they are not members and they are not covered by the article five commitment. i think that is what they are seeking. i5 commitment. i think that is what they are seeking. they are seeking. is there any ossible they are seeking. is there any possible alternative they are seeking. is there any l possible alternative explanation here? you are very much of the opinion clearly that putin has made a miscalculation with this invasion, didn t expect the reaction. is there any possible other way in which this is perhaps an outcome he wanted? i can t imagine it. i can t imagine it. i mean, if we take them at their word in moscow, i don t believe it is true but it seems to be the russian perception that somehow nato and nato enlargement over the years has threatened them. i cannot imagine they would want to see further enlargement, and indeed this is nato acquiring countries that already have very sophisticated defence capacity, so ijust can t see this as being go ....