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Without -- faith, i guess -- >> he's always there for you. >> i've got you. >> but afghanistan, though, it's fascinating. donald trump is afraid go to afghanistan, by keeps flying back to chicago. so is afghanistan really more dangerous than chicago? i think not because if it were, donald trump could be cowarding at home. >> yeah. and once again president trump has forced us to say something preposterous but true on tv which is that chicago is not more dangerous than afghanistan. we've established that as a fact check. but, you're right, this is all, again, a personal slight, superintendent ed...

Presidents, but it'sa i b a big problem with this president, he makes things up and he makes up details. it's very sad. one final thing on colonel vindman's testimony today, apparently i guess there was a translator on the july 25th phone call. current vindman speaks influent ukrainian. it would be interesting to hear if there's any nuance in what ukrainians were saying that he picked up that maybe wasn't given us in that rough transcript this we got from the white house. >> so interesting. laura ingram pointed it out and tried to make it dirty, but actually beinga toi able to spe ukrainian wo...

President zelensky's efforts to advance reforms that would end an era of corruption in ukraine. >> that's vice president mike pence speaking to reporters in iowa about three weeks ago about his call with president zelensky. we have kara lee with her latest reporting on the internal white house debate that is stifling the call. so good morning. we heard vice president spence saying he had no problem putting that out, he has nothing to hide. so why haven't we seen that transcript? >> that's a great question. basically that was almost three weeks ago, three weeks ago tomorrow where the vice presi...

Former officials who told nbc news that those descriptors made them cringe and there is an overarching concern that trump gave america's enemies details that could make intelligence gathering and similar military operations more difficult and more dangerous to pull off. gene robinson, about before you go, your final thoughts this morning some gosh, just even watching him sunday morning i was cringing and i was thinking of what my dad -- he would have been just horrified. >> why am i not surprised? as you know, as your dad knew, there's a whole process that has to be gone through before the pre...

Violence, the president's not wrong about that. but to go to the host city, the place where you'resies itti vis attack the city, it's not surprising from donald trump, but it should. >> let's remember that president trump has a big hotel and development there and should have been part of this problem way before the president and way before the police commissioner. he's never been involved in the community there so he's always speaking because he was slighted. it's interesting he never attacks russia but can he attack chicago. he attacks baltimore saying it was full of problem in his own hotel ...