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Correct? >> absolutely correct. we don't know if the guidance and reentry works. >> then you had a statement from secretary tillerson, a statement from mattis, both of which were kind of walking back what the president said or sort of trying to shape what the president said. obviously tillerson was focus odd diplomatic efforts. mattis made the points it's not threats. >> it's self-protection, and the protection of our allies. tillerson people and americans especially should be able to sleep well at night, but if we take the general at his word, women assume that anything they launch is a nucle...

Test me. go ahead. shoot a missile, shoot four missiles. we're going to assume they're nuclear tipped. we give that to you. our intelligence assess stock market that you've got this capability. you launch one missile -- and we don't know where it's going. certainly the north koreans don't know where it's going. this is like lawn darts. i'm not trying to be flippant, but we don't have confidence in the guidance or reentry capability. but if he were to launch four missiles, whether it's in sequence or simultaneously, i think we should make the asums that it's nuclear tipped, which means we go af...

The pattern that we have in the past, which is simply to acknowledge they're launching missiles. if we give them, we acknowledge that they have a nuclear capability, kim and his regime are now at the table that would require them to be signatories of the mpt. they were before. they have to walked up and if they don't, they start launching missiles, tell me why we wouldn't assume -- >> they have launching missiles for several years, right? >> but we have not once until most recently come forward with an assessment that says they have accelerated their production, their scientific discoveries, t...

>> yeah, but we have not once until most recently come forward with an estimate that says hey, guys, they've accelerated their production. they've accelerated their scientific discoveries. they've miniaturized their nukes. and we think they have the ability to marry those two together. so we are giving to them the capability that they have a nuclear delivery capability based on icbm tests and based on our assessments. >> we don't know it can reenter the earth's atmosphere, though, correct? >> absolutely correct. we don't know if the guidance is good and that the reentry works at all. >> it doe...

The south. >> to that point, what the president said earlier today, on tuesday, which is august 15th when thenoicance have said that they are going to send ballistic missiles heading towards guam that will fall short, the president has basically set this up as a challenge, saying hey, he's going to watch that and respond. it seems like somebody has to blink on tuesday. >> i think the president of the united states probably should have said two words -- test me. go ahead. shoot a missile, shoot four missiles. we're going to assume they're nuclear tipped. we give that to you. our assessment is y...