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Capability, a nuclearized capability is you now have to self-modulate. you've got to moderate your behavior. before, over the seven decades, the kim regime has been getting away with literally murder and provocative actions, the pueblo, the taking down of an aircraft, the tree cutting incident in '76. routine firing on the shoulders of south korea, on the western coast of south korea, activities along the dmz as a matter of routine, infiltration of special ops forces. we always acknowledge that, yet there is no price that the north has ever paid. he now has a nuke. we can't afford to do that, ...

Icbm capability. they have short-range missiles, plenty of those. they have been miniaturizing their nukes. whether they have 20, some estimates, whether they have 60, they have miniaturized nukes. north korea is a nuclear power. they are now getting closer and closer, if not have already embraced and realized a capability of launching a nuke from sites in north korea that could potentially hit the united states and certainly have always been able to hit the southern portion of the peninsula. that's what ties us all together and, really, starts to limit the number of options, but increases the...

Personally, prominently, and says we are prepared to defend our ally under any circumstances. mattis can't do it for him. tillerson can't do it for him. north korea is trying to defy us from our allies with this icbm capability, and they need to be convinced that the united states commitment is not wavering. >> let me point out that our alliances are stronger than just our individual leaders. and i think there were some several positive developments out of the last g-20. yesterday for the first time there was u.s., japan, around south korean air forces that operated in a cooperative deterrence...

The rhetoric but he has got to have a plan working behind it. i haven't seen the outlines of a plan yet. but here is where we are. you're not going to be able to unravel the north korean program short of a ground invasion that rips stuff out of the ground. they've got icbm capability now. they have nuclear weapons, maybe 10 to 20 warheads, maybe a couple more. we don't know for sure. we don't know where everything is. so, you don't have a military option of a knockout strike that is cost free. south korea and japan would pay for a strike with tens of thousands of casualties. you would have a m...

They believe they can acquire this icbm capability, capable of reaching the united states. that is their strategy. clearly they're about it. >> leland: well, check mate, as you say, brings up a lot of questions strategically. move on now to the second part of this trip in terms of talking about the president's commit phpbtd to nato. there were a lot of questions. he talked about article v in his speech. no doubt that speech was on polish soil, a country that's meeting the 2% threshold set by nato. listen to what the president said. >> we are grateful for the example poland has set for every me...