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Illegally. >> here is the thing as we expect people who live in this country to play by the rules. we expect those who cut the line will not be unfairly rewarded. rob: he is talking about giving amnesty to people who come illegally and didn't want to do that. there were no calls for fascism in the white house after he made that speech but today you see a different story and going so far as to protect criminal illegal aliens, what happened? >> the left double standard, we all know what happened, we have a president trying to enforce the rule of law and secretary nielsen is right, you protect yo...

>> the ice agent on the ground who walk around, as you know, with huge lettering that says police. they are not police, they are immigration agents. when the president says this basically take them out, that is what the community then is saying this is fearful for us. this is the gestapo on us. leland: wow. so is this a better approach to the discussion of immigration? here to debate fox news contributor richard fowler and the blaze host lawrence jones. gentlemen, nice to see you as always. >> good morning, leland. leland: when you hear the word gestapo and to our viewers who wake up at this 7...

Drugs are coming in, a lot of things happening along the southern border and we are going to straighten it out. heather: donald trump doubling down on his call for a while after a border agent was brutally attacked and beaten to death the by illegal immigrants, here to discuss, former ice agent and border patrol officer, thank you for coming in, we appreciate it. this agent was 36 years old, he had been a border patrol agent, goes out to do his job, will not ever go home again. standing there, so proud of his dad. is this an indication? >> a lot of talking heads in washington speaking about a ...

I'm encouraged by his opinion on that. we are looking at a new department of homeland security secretary that's very similar to jay johnson and his opinions. steve: david, in listening to you the last couple of minutes, it sounds like you and many of the -- of your former colleagues at the department of homeland security had high hopes but now there doesn't seem to be much swamp draining because a lot of the people from the previous administration will have jobs in the new one. >> obviously the obama administration, the swamp has not been drained and a lot of folks will try and block mr. trump...